After helping lead his family business to a multimillion-dollar exit, a tragic loss and a life-changing injury shifted Badal Shah’s perspective. His road to recovery led him to the forefront of the growing CBD industry, and now he’s looking to make his most meaningful mark.

On this Episode of The Besomebody Podcast:

4:30 Traits of a winning team player. “There’s winning leadership behavior, winning leadership characteristics that people can still display and show, even if they’re lower on the continuum of capacity and work. Even if you’re a 4, 5 or 6, which isn’t really good for our company, but you’re displaying winning behavior, myself as a leader can notice it. That’s the character of the type of person that we want.” -KS

11:11 Badal’s early experiences with entrepreneurship. “My father was an entrepreneur. Seeing him growing up and his grind, sacrifice, and never being around – not by choice but by necessity – to make it work for our family was just something that really became engrained in me. My first entrepreneurial experience was with him and the family chemical business. Myself, my brother and father built a business that taught me a lot of things. It was really the hustle of doing it from scratch and bootlegging, trying to make something out of very little.” – BS

14:02 The evolving definition of “success.” “We sold [the chemical company] in January 2017 – you think you’ve been waiting for this moment, put in all this blood, sweat, and tears waiting for the wires to come in. You think that’s the biggest moment of your life. Three minutes after the wire hit, my best friend’s wife passed away. It just hit me in terms of what is really important in life. From that moment I wanted to challenge myself to be highly passionate in what I was doing and then also have impact. That became very important. You always think about what success means, then you achieve some of it and you realize that definition was wrong the whole time.” -BS

16:17 Money as a motivation. “I finally realized money isn’t number one. It’s in my top three – it’s number three. Number one is to make a positive impact on the world – legacy, things like that. Number two is to build that mechanism that makes that impact with people that I love and care about – people I love going to work with, and I enjoy being around. Number three is to hopefully be successful and make some money doing it. That’s really helped me get my mind where it needs to be. If I didn’t have the number one, that broader purpose, then I wouldn’t be fulfilled in the work…but also if I didn’t have number three, the financial, then I wouldn’t be able to serve as many people. I always see money as a symptom, not a purpose. Being able to build a successful business enables you to employ more people, help more people, make some more investments, and grow. The balance of those three things – of the impact that you’re making in number one, the right people around you, and then strong business and financial success as well – has been pretty powerful.” -KS

33:28 Preparing for leading in the post-COVID space. “How do we end on the other side of this pandemic as a market leader? We’re doing things, making investments, continuing with our growth plans. For example, we’re adding some highly sophisticated technical capabilities to be able to come out on the other side of this to be positioned as one of the leaders in the space that can both serve the industry from the B2B side, but also with two brands that are scalable and ready for global growth.” -BS

42:25 Kash’s One Big Thing. “So many entrepreneurs have to make these quick, gut, strategic decisions that blend both art and science, without a ton of data. But you still have to take that risk; you still have to go for something. When it works, everyone is applauding you and telling you how smart you are, how you’re a genius. When it doesn’t, you’re an idiot. That’s why you can’t get wrapped up in the wins and losses. You can’t get wrapped up in the applause or ‘boos’ you get, the love or hate you get from other people. You have to believe in what you’re doing, believe in the decision you made at that time, and make sure you’ve made it for the right reasons. You take the result as it comes. The same people that are calling you a genius today, are going to call you an idiot tomorrow.” -KS

Kroger Health, the healthcare arm of America’s largest grocery chain (The Kroger Co.), serves more than 14 million people each year across 2,200 pharmacies, 220 clinics, and multiple telehealth solutions. As the country’s 5th largest retail healthcare organization, it sits in a space of its own at the intersection of food and medicine. Colleen Lindholz has been passionately guiding the company’s work in this area for years. Today, she’s taking on COVID-19 while also preparing the company for a world where healthy diet, immunity, and wellness will be more important than ever.

On this Episode of The Besomebody Podcast:

11:07 The opportunity of a lifetime. “It’s an honor to be given the opportunity to lead on the frontlines of the frontlines. I’ve been in the industry for 25 years and I’ve never seen a time like we’re seeing right now. I’ve never seen people come together like I’m seeing right now. The collective efforts of the 460,000 people that work for The Kroger Company across the country has just been amazing. Amazing to see people being a part of something bigger than themselves…Every decision that we make is grounded in our values and our purpose…to feed the human spirit. We’ve never seen it like we’re seeing it right now come alive, whether it be in our stores or beyond our four walls. The work that we’re doing with the government to expand the COVID testing locations has just been a true testament to who we are and what we believe in. It’s definitely been a whirlwind, but it’s an honor to be a part of it.” -CL

12:18 What companies need to be doing right now. “Now more than ever it’s so important for companies to really live and breathe their values, purpose, mission, and vision. Lots of times its words on a paper, but I’ve always seen it come to life in the work you’ve been doing and what Kroger’s been doing. But it’s so critical right now…People are looking for hope and inspiration during this time.” -KS

27:41 Colleen on the power of commitment. “It’s a lot about commitment, it’s a lot about where you come from, who you are, your purpose in life in general. I know why I’m put on this earth, and I’m not going to stop pushing for change, I think that there’s a lot of change that needs to happen in our country, and I believe in it. Commitment, when you commit yourself to something, and you say, ‘I’m going to go do this no matter who pushes back.’ When there’s adversity and doubters all around you, you just have to stay persistent.” -CL

37:54 Traits of great leaders. “I really believe the greatest leaders lead with integrity. They lead with passion, as well as intellect. If you just have the smarts but don’t have the passion and integrity, you’re not going to be a great leader. When you have all three amazing things can happen.” -KS

40:06 The most important value. “I think just being authentic and being who you are and not trying to be something different, and doing what you say you’re going to do. Don’t go say something and not go do it…I want people to say, ‘She’s real…what she says, she goes and does.’ I always put authenticity and trust up there. With my team, I tell them, ‘If I cannot trust you, it doesn’t matter how smart you are, it doesn’t matter how many letters you have behind your name…it doesn’t matter what your experience is, it doesn’t matter to me.’ It does not matter, what matters is that I can trust you.” -CL

47:57 Kash’s One Big Thing. “When you want to succeed – when you want to win – you want to have not only the best people that do great work, but people that you can trust. The people that you’ve already been in the wars with, that you’ve been in the trenches with. That you trust to have your left side, your right side when you’re going into battle. You have to have that shared mission, vision, and values. You have to be able to connect ‘on the court and off the court’ because if you don’t, you’re never going to make it happen.” -KS